"Moves-Like-Senna" (moves-like-senna)
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"Moves-Like-Senna" (moves-like-senna)
11/30/2016 at 00:30 • Filed to: None | 1
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Edit: Repost for morning crew
So today’s been an interesting day! I hit the gym had a great workout and finishing my last set I got an email from a potential employer. I hopped on Skype and well, I’m moving back to Montreal! Later, I got to meet a ton of Oppos and catch Reitus and Cleitus Premiere which was just stellar!
The interesting thing about this whole mess is that I will be there, paying rent in Toronto as well and my girlfriend will remain here until I get through probation (3 months). So in that time I plan on visiting every couple weeks.
It’s a 350 Mile drive on highways and I’ll be leaving Friday after work and returning Sunday night. I’ll need a car to do this as renting is great and all but if I’m doing this over Christmas where I’ll get the week off .. I may as well bite the bullet and invest in a car for the next few years.
Requirements:
I view highway bombers as cars that are comfortable, that you feel a presence in and where you dont realize you’re doing 100MPH and neither do others. A Rolls, Bentley or BMW 6 series coupes are perfect examples of just that. A GT car.
1) Highway speed and comfort - I know where every speed trap is on this drive and allegedly cruise at 92.5mph. That means I need stealth and yes, a blackout button is on the list.
2) I’m 6ft 3 and an athletic 225 - No I do not fit in a Miata. If only.
3) Return on investment - This will be my DD through this winter, however I plan to trade it in come spring or summer for a 2017 Camero SS or ZL1.
4) Gas milage - I’m not going to buy something that gets a good 21MPG. I’m looking closer to 30MPG.
5) Tops $14K Canadian but less is better - It must be reliable. I am not going to sit out on my cold ass in mid January in -60F.
What are your thoughts Oppo? This is a huge step for me, I’ve never purchased my own cars and driven them. Though I’m in my later 20s and purchased nearly 20 vehicles in the past few years I flipped them quick and growing up, I was fortunate to have parents willing to provide me with transport.
So far on my list:
This Buick - $15.9K (Negotiation)
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2008 Saab 9-3 Wagon - IT BROWN! $9K
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2011 Genesis Coupe - Make an offer of $10K .. it has warranty
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WHAT ARE YOUR SUGGESTIONS OPPO?!?!?!?!
bob and john
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 00:37 |
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can you squeeze a lexus IS in there by any chance?
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Moves-Like-Senna
> bob and john
11/30/2016 at 00:42 |
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Any pre 2010 IS should be sub 10K then the price jumps but they have 160K km on em or higher.
Pre 2010 GS also are dirt cheap with less miles.
The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 00:42 |
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TURBO BUICK. They should accept $14k, it’s not like the market is huge for manual transmission hot Buick. They should take that amount to get rid of it. It’s weird enough to be interesting, but looks bland enough to blend in with 95% of traffic.
Amoore100
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 00:43 |
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Saabs are fun because night panel.
You can play out all your jet-fighter fantasies on the highway at night. Until the pile of Swedish rubble conks out in the middle of nowhere. And you realize that it’s just a Vectra.
IMO I’d still go for the Saab tho because it’s in great condition and Sportcombi. The Buick is probably the better choice logically speaking in the long run, but I don’t let logic dictate what I do!
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Moves-Like-Senna
> Amoore100
11/30/2016 at 00:45 |
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Yes I know it’s a Vectra but is the reliability that bad? I have someone on my soccer team with a 2006 9-3... not a car guy but hasnt has anything break.
Nightpanel is a huge plus for me, it means I only need a kill switch for the exterior lights.
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bob and john
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 00:57 |
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well there you go. reliable hwy bomber = lexus. comfort, class, under the radar, and resale is pretty good too
sm70- why not Duesenberg?
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 01:01 |
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Depends on how you define reliable. Defining it loosely opens up a whole slew of possibilities that are older and German. If not, maybe an S60R/V70R, S80, Lexus SC/GS, Passat CC, G35/G37, even a Chrysler 300 V6.
In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 01:25 |
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I got you fam
DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 01:27 |
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Sounds like the perfect job for a Volvo. I’m not too familiar with them so I can’t recommend a specific model.
For Sweden
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 01:33 |
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If you don’t want a Volvo, one of the best highway cars I ever drove was a Dodge Challenger SXT. The V8 is cool, but the V6 should give you 30 mpg.
Tapas
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 02:04 |
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E39 M5!
Audistein
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 02:09 |
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What about a Toyota Avalon? A bit bland but very, very comfortable and will eat up miles better than anything on your list. You can get an 2008-2010 Avalon for $8k-$14k Canadian easy. Not as slow as you would think either but gets great mpg (28 highway). Really just such a plush ride.
Want AWD? Get a Subaru Legacy. Much more comfortable than an Impreza (and especially the WRX) so it should handle the miles quite well. You could get a 2.5 H4 AWD or even a 3.6 H6 AWD (boxer engines!) from the 5th generation, 2009-2014, for under $15k. The 4th generation Legacy is also a great car and costs even less.
Best choice is probably an Acura TL though. You could easily pick up a 3rd gen TL, 2004-2008, for under $15k CAD. Handles well, rides well, looks great, is reliable, and has a powerful and smooth V6 as standard. Also gets decent mpg. You might even be able to get a 4th gen TL if you look hard and don’t mind a bit more miles per year on the car.
Wagon Guy drives a Boostang
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 02:24 |
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Highway bomber? Fly under the radar? What do the cops drive? Get a couple year old Tahoe, or Crown Vic in either white or black.
TheHondaBro
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 02:37 |
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Honda Accord V6? I’ve done plenty of road trips in mine and averaged 35 highway MPG on them. The V6 is smooth and plenty powerful for the car it’s in. I managed to hit 110 MPH in mine and the car kept accelerating without breaking a sweat. I wouldn’t have even known I was doing 110 MPH if I wasn’t looking at the speedometer.
I drive a 7th gen, but you can probably get an 8th gen for $14,000 CAD.
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Amoore100
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 02:37 |
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I think the only issue is parts. Saab has a pretty good support network but the supply is dwindling and a lot of it is still based in Europe. Also, you probably would want to find a good, dedicated Saab mechanic since I don’t think GM guys would touch it with a ten-foot pole (it’s a “liability”) and the local Jiffy Lube, uh, no.
I would assume it’s no different from our Volvos which have been pretty solid but every year require maybe $1,500 in servicing just because parts fail as they get old and mileage goes up. With a clean, low mileage example like the S/Comb you have above there probably won’t be any issues now, but in the long term parts/maintenance might get costly. This is all speculation though since we’ve only ever owned Vo’s but I’ve read plenty on Saabs all around the interwebs.
LongbowMkII
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 06:37 |
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Kill the exterior lights?
Ride the bus instead.
Stapleface
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 08:31 |
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You probably don’t want to hear it, but a Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Town Car is pretty much the ultimate in under the radar highway cruising. They can cruise at 100 mph all day long, and you won’t even realize you’re doing it. Getting 30mpg at 100 is probably going to be tough in any car though.
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Moves-Like-Senna
> Amoore100
11/30/2016 at 09:44 |
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Thanks for all the info! That makes a lot of sense but I had no idea even oil changes would need to be done at a special dealer rather than at a jiffy lube!
That’s not too crazy, heck 1500$ is less than I’d have expected from a Volvo (I love Volvos) but that’s what I thought. I’m guessing at 180-200K kilometers things will start breaking
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Moves-Like-Senna
> bob and john
11/30/2016 at 09:44 |
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The GS or the IS? hahaha, that’s very true ... the value wont drop no matter the milage.
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Moves-Like-Senna
> DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time
11/30/2016 at 09:48 |
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I LOVE Volvo’s and still dream of the 1998 Orange C70 HPT I passed up on a few years ago but the reliability is my primary concern :( Parts are pricey
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Moves-Like-Senna
> For Sweden
11/30/2016 at 09:52 |
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I love Volvo but parts/maintenance are my concern. The Challengers are really nice, the last gen’s are just out of my price range up here though (unless it was a former rental - I rent a few times a month and wouldn’t even consider buying one). The V6 does 30 mpg all day long
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Moves-Like-Senna
> Audistein
11/30/2016 at 10:01 |
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I’m going to look into the Avalon - Primary concern is insurance. It’s why I can’t get an accord - I love post 2012 accords but insurance is double any sports car and while I can afford that in Quebec the car will be registered in Ontario for 3 months :(
Subaru is a no go after nightmares from friends but the Acura is another interesting proposition. I’m going to dig into this! Thanks!
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Moves-Like-Senna
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
11/30/2016 at 10:02 |
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How much will the value drop? Especially with 50K Km added before I dump it later this year :/
Also any clue on how the stick is on this? I would need to learn on the job haha
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Moves-Like-Senna
> TheHondaBro
11/30/2016 at 10:04 |
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A 9th gen accord V6 is my dream. I thought they were bland and got picked up in a fully loaded one in an Uber last week and I was beyond impressed. With my size, I comfortably fit in the back, the seats were great, so was the ride and it had seat warmers.... My only concern is insurance but they would hold their value strong!
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Amoore100
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 10:07 |
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Well I think you could have it serviced at any respectable shop. I wouldn’t take any car to the local Jiffy Lube if we’re honest, but someone like Wheelworks as we have in California is pretty reasonable for the basic stuff. You’ll want a special mechanic for the more specific stuff since they probably have more familiarity and parts supply but the consumables are ok for probably anyone as long as the shop is reputable.
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Moves-Like-Senna
> Stapleface
11/30/2016 at 10:14 |
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I’ve thought about these but I can’t go panther. The milage isn’t great even at 60mph it’s in the lower 20s and up here most have gone pretty rusty. I’ve been maintaining my grandparent’s marquis (2002) and just cant imagine owning one. Thanks tho!
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Moves-Like-Senna
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/30/2016 at 10:17 |
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Passat CC =/= reliable in my books, however, the G35/37 is interesting and the V6 300 would be great. The reason it’s loosely defined is I’m not quite sure what to expect. As mentioned, most of my cars in the past few years lasted a week, German/Euro/American classics that I received better offers on almost immediately so most I barely drove and only ever had one minor repair. Otherwise vehicles were bought by my parents and maintained under their name so I never really learned the cost of ownership. At 27 this will be the first car I buy and keep.
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Moves-Like-Senna
> In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you
11/30/2016 at 10:17 |
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<3 A man can dream!
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Moves-Like-Senna
> Wagon Guy drives a Boostang
11/30/2016 at 10:18 |
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The local PDs dont run those here, I’m looking at a charger or taurus haha
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Moves-Like-Senna
> Tapas
11/30/2016 at 10:18 |
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Aren’t those getting pricey to maintain? I’d be feeling so guilty driving one in the snow ... out in Quebec they dump an inch of salt everywhere.. cars last up to 10 years
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Moves-Like-Senna
> Amoore100
11/30/2016 at 10:21 |
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Yea, there are a couple sweedish shops in Montreal. Most closed down but they’re still alive and it would work well as the car would be a weekend only car for the most part.
G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 10:21 |
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I got u fam.
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Moves-Like-Senna
> G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
11/30/2016 at 10:26 |
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#3 is my pick but isn’t it going to cost me more than a night at a strip club to replace a blinker bulb?
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G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 10:29 |
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Not the W211s. This was the first turn of the millenium car that Mercedes sorted out their quality issue on. My best friend’s uncle has had an E500 for years now, and he hasn’t had to do anything other than regular maintenance and replacing burnt out bulbs. Even gets pretty decent highway mileage (around 27 at 90 MPH). Make sure the air compressor isn’t making any funny noises, and you’re all good. Not much to these cars other than that.
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bob and john
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 10:32 |
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both actually
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Moves-Like-Senna
> G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
11/30/2016 at 10:35 |
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This sounds too good to be true 0.0 can it be?! 27 at 90mph is good enough for me if it’s a Benz. Air compressor? This isn’t running an air suspension is it?
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Tapas
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 10:51 |
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No idea....but I’ve always wanted one.
I guess you’re better off with a Lexus GS something or a G35?
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G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 10:55 |
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At least, that’s round about where the trip computer reports. Most W211 E500s have air suspension, but it’s 2nd generation Airmatic so it doesn’t suffer from nearly as many reliability issues as the air suspension on the W220. No ABC either, just bags and a compressor. They’re about $700-900 per bag (before you send back the core), but it’s rare to have more than one bag fail at once on W211s (they’re pretty sturdy). The compressor itself is about $400, and can easily be installed in a garage at home with not much more than a jack, stands, and basic hand tools. Typically the compressor goes out long before the bags, unless a large piece of road debris slices a bag. Either way, not super obscenely expensive.
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Moves-Like-Senna
> G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
11/30/2016 at 11:31 |
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I’ve been watching videos ... hahaha it’s super tempting. Can you drive with one stuck on low?
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G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 11:55 |
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It’s not that comfortable with blown bags, but it can technically be driven as such. Honestly, as long as the compressor isn’t excessively loud, you will absolutely get your money’s worth with the air suspension all good and intact.
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Amoore100
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 14:27 |
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Yeah, my V50 and my dads V70 usually get their oil changed and wheels rotated/aligned at the local chain shop Wheelworks but for sensors, engine work, and suspension components we go to a local shop: Exclusively Volvo.
No Prius Needed
> Moves-Like-Senna
11/30/2016 at 15:46 |
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As others have said Lexus GS, Infiniti G35, or Acura TL. You can probably find a 2nd gen Acura RL for the same price which is what I would go with. AWD, torque vectoring, stealthy, 300hp, and its comfortable.
theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil
> Moves-Like-Senna
12/01/2016 at 12:38 |
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Not even a Marauder?
What about a Lexus GS400/Lexus LS400
tpw_rules
> Moves-Like-Senna
12/04/2016 at 13:44 |
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I second the Saab. Reliability is not bad at all. The biggest things mine needed were coils at 100k miles. It’s so smooth and has great passing power. It will also get above 35MPG on cruise control at 80MPH. Parts aren’t really a problem since the corpse of Saab has been re-animated by the Swedish government or something and continues to make them. I got those coils OEM at Autozone, actually, with the Saab stamp on them and everything. It does recommend kind of expensive “euro-spec” 0-W40 for oil.
V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
> G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
12/31/2016 at 23:51 |
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ABC is my trigger word lol.
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G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
> V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
01/01/2017 at 01:18 |
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It’s not that bad. $1500 is a steep price for a pump, but the install isn’t too hard.
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V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
> G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
01/01/2017 at 01:26 |
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In a year and a half I’ve spent about $6000 on ABC. It’s not good.
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G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
> V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
01/01/2017 at 12:51 |
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Did you end up replacing the whole damn system?
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V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
> G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
01/01/2017 at 12:54 |
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No. Accumulators, a reservoir and a few high pressure lines behind the engine.
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G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
> V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
01/01/2017 at 12:56 |
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You had a shop fix it, right?
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V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
> G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
01/01/2017 at 12:59 |
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Yeah, most of that was labor.
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G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
> V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
01/01/2017 at 15:51 |
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Yup. I’m a cheap idiot with more time than money, so I’d probably just have done it myself.
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V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
> G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
01/01/2017 at 17:31 |
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Oh lol. I’m an idiot with more money than time so I guess that works out
Land_Yacht_225
> G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
01/02/2017 at 22:54 |
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I don’t know who you’ve been talking to, but the part is $2,000 with another $3,000 in labor. The install requires the removal of the entire A/C pump assembly and the engine be put in a modified service position.
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G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
> Land_Yacht_225
01/03/2017 at 00:54 |
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You can find a reputable pump for $1500 online, and (at least on R230s), it’s not much harder to install than an SBC water pump.